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	<title>Comments on: New ideas for the restaurant reviews siteâ€¦</title>
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	<description>Jonathan Endersby, Recovering Technologist</description>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
		<link>http://www.arbitraryuser.com/blog/2007/03/14/new-ideas-on-the-restaurant-reviews-site%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for explanation - easy on your &quot;rights&quot; - I didn&#039;t intend to become the first poster ever to tell a blog-owner what to do on his blog... But as my postings were in moderation-mode and gone the next day, while they were meant to be helpful, I think I have the &#039;right&#039; to wonder where they went :-)

About Google Maps - don&#039;t know - I can find streets in the boondocks with it, but might not be the case for the whole country yet.
Alternatives: mapquest.com or maporama.com? Other than that, GPS coordinates might be helpful.

About advertising: always tricky indeed. Clearly stating they are sponsored links in not unusual though: see tripadvisor.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for explanation &#8211; easy on your &#8220;rights&#8221; &#8211; I didn&#8217;t intend to become the first poster ever to tell a blog-owner what to do on his blog&#8230; But as my postings were in moderation-mode and gone the next day, while they were meant to be helpful, I think I have the &#8216;right&#8217; to wonder where they went :-)</p>
<p>About Google Maps &#8211; don&#8217;t know &#8211; I can find streets in the boondocks with it, but might not be the case for the whole country yet.<br />
Alternatives: mapquest.com or maporama.com? Other than that, GPS coordinates might be helpful.</p>
<p>About advertising: always tricky indeed. Clearly stating they are sponsored links in not unusual though: see tripadvisor.com.</p>
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		<title>By: arbitraryuser</title>
		<link>http://www.arbitraryuser.com/blog/2007/03/14/new-ideas-on-the-restaurant-reviews-site%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>arbitraryuser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(ok, firstly, Jerome and Jasper, why do you have the same email address? Is one a nom de plume?)

Woah tiger, easy on the feelings of exclusion... If you look at the top of your browser you will see that the domain you are currently on is &quot;arbitraryuser.com&quot; which happens to be my site where I do whatever I want. 

I read you initial comment and decided not to publish it until I was able to reply and since I&#039;ve been changing jobs, planning a holiday and witnessing car crashes and chasing drunk drivers I kinda feel I have every right to do as I please.

Anyways, I agree, keeping it simple is key, Google Maps would be great but I dont really think that Google maps is &quot;there&quot; yet with regards to roads in South Africa.

The one thing I really disagree with you on is the idea of &quot;paid for listings&quot; or any variation thereof. I feel that the minute we let a restaurant pay us money for anything we run the risk of losing our credibility as a neutral information source. 

We do feel that giving restaurants access to the site as &quot;Restaurant Representatives&quot; who can answer questions or respond to criticism etc is a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(ok, firstly, Jerome and Jasper, why do you have the same email address? Is one a nom de plume?)</p>
<p>Woah tiger, easy on the feelings of exclusion&#8230; If you look at the top of your browser you will see that the domain you are currently on is &#8220;arbitraryuser.com&#8221; which happens to be my site where I do whatever I want. </p>
<p>I read you initial comment and decided not to publish it until I was able to reply and since I&#8217;ve been changing jobs, planning a holiday and witnessing car crashes and chasing drunk drivers I kinda feel I have every right to do as I please.</p>
<p>Anyways, I agree, keeping it simple is key, Google Maps would be great but I dont really think that Google maps is &#8220;there&#8221; yet with regards to roads in South Africa.</p>
<p>The one thing I really disagree with you on is the idea of &#8220;paid for listings&#8221; or any variation thereof. I feel that the minute we let a restaurant pay us money for anything we run the risk of losing our credibility as a neutral information source. </p>
<p>We do feel that giving restaurants access to the site as &#8220;Restaurant Representatives&#8221; who can answer questions or respond to criticism etc is a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, clearly Jon is not my friend - just moderates my comments out - thought they were constructive.... Whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, clearly Jon is not my friend &#8211; just moderates my comments out &#8211; thought they were constructive&#8230;. Whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
		<link>http://www.arbitraryuser.com/blog/2007/03/14/new-ideas-on-the-restaurant-reviews-site%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a look here: http://www.restaurants.co.za/ - maybe for inspiration. If it is discouragement.... too bad :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a look here: <a href="http://www.restaurants.co.za/" rel="nofollow">http://www.restaurants.co.za/</a> &#8211; maybe for inspiration. If it is discouragement&#8230;. too bad :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
		<link>http://www.arbitraryuser.com/blog/2007/03/14/new-ideas-on-the-restaurant-reviews-site%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought like Tresblue: fewer than 10 categories to grade, from 1 to 5 - average per category, overall average. Maybe you can build some algo that includes the &#039;weight&#039; of a reviewer (a guru&#039;s review weighs more than the newbie&#039;s one); also, older reviews weigh less than new ones (just a few more factors and you&#039;re matching Google&#039;s algo :-)).

Of course you have to mashup a Google map for its location and directions;
Restaurants can pay to have their contactdetails (email\URL?) included, so people can contact them (directly) - if the reviews are not too bad...
Tagging seems like a good idea to facilitate searches - maybe a colorcode for price-range?

In general, good idea (although I think I have seen something similar before - San Francisco I vaguely recall, so do some research as well).

J

PS
Too bad there is no option to be informed via email about comments\updates of this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought like Tresblue: fewer than 10 categories to grade, from 1 to 5 &#8211; average per category, overall average. Maybe you can build some algo that includes the &#8216;weight&#8217; of a reviewer (a guru&#8217;s review weighs more than the newbie&#8217;s one); also, older reviews weigh less than new ones (just a few more factors and you&#8217;re matching Google&#8217;s algo :-)).</p>
<p>Of course you have to mashup a Google map for its location and directions;<br />
Restaurants can pay to have their contactdetails (email\URL?) included, so people can contact them (directly) &#8211; if the reviews are not too bad&#8230;<br />
Tagging seems like a good idea to facilitate searches &#8211; maybe a colorcode for price-range?</p>
<p>In general, good idea (although I think I have seen something similar before &#8211; San Francisco I vaguely recall, so do some research as well).</p>
<p>J</p>
<p>PS<br />
Too bad there is no option to be informed via email about comments\updates of this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
		<link>http://www.arbitraryuser.com/blog/2007/03/14/new-ideas-on-the-restaurant-reviews-site%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, clearly technology is not my friend. Didn&#039;t mean to post twice. Just trying to fix the extra &quot;e&quot; in &quot;themselves&quot;. sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, clearly technology is not my friend. Didn&#8217;t mean to post twice. Just trying to fix the extra &#8220;e&#8221; in &#8220;themselves&#8221;. sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oi oi oi Skye,

Not all of us are &quot;possibly biased / pretentious / condescending&quot;.  Unless of course said journos are of the variety that orginally tried to make it in the restaurant business and failed miserably. Left with nothing to do but criticise others in the media.
I&#039;d be inclined to rather &quot;politely&quot; ask ANYONE biased, pretentious or condescending not to contribute further, regardless of whether they&#039;re a journo, secretary or neurosurgeon.

Besides, most of the obnoxious foodie journos I know are so big up themselves they wouldn&#039;t be able to keep the condescension short enough to be accepted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi oi oi Skye,</p>
<p>Not all of us are &#8220;possibly biased / pretentious / condescending&#8221;.  Unless of course said journos are of the variety that orginally tried to make it in the restaurant business and failed miserably. Left with nothing to do but criticise others in the media.<br />
I&#8217;d be inclined to rather &#8220;politely&#8221; ask ANYONE biased, pretentious or condescending not to contribute further, regardless of whether they&#8217;re a journo, secretary or neurosurgeon.</p>
<p>Besides, most of the obnoxious foodie journos I know are so big up themselves they wouldn&#8217;t be able to keep the condescension short enough to be accepted.</p>
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
		<link>http://www.arbitraryuser.com/blog/2007/03/14/new-ideas-on-the-restaurant-reviews-site%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oi oi oi Skye,

Not all of us are &quot;possibly biased / pretentious / condescending&quot;.  Unless of course said journos are of the variety that orginally tried to make it in the restaurant business and failed miserably. Left with nothing to do but criticise others in the media.
I&#039;d be inclined to rather &quot;politely&quot; ask ANYONE biased, pretentious or condescending not to contribute further, regardless of whether they&#039;re a journo, secretary or neurosurgeon.

Besides, most of the obnoxious foodie journos I know are so big up themeselves they wouldn&#039;t be able to keep the condescension short enough to be accepted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi oi oi Skye,</p>
<p>Not all of us are &#8220;possibly biased / pretentious / condescending&#8221;.  Unless of course said journos are of the variety that orginally tried to make it in the restaurant business and failed miserably. Left with nothing to do but criticise others in the media.<br />
I&#8217;d be inclined to rather &#8220;politely&#8221; ask ANYONE biased, pretentious or condescending not to contribute further, regardless of whether they&#8217;re a journo, secretary or neurosurgeon.</p>
<p>Besides, most of the obnoxious foodie journos I know are so big up themeselves they wouldn&#8217;t be able to keep the condescension short enough to be accepted.</p>
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		<title>By: Tresblue</title>
		<link>http://www.arbitraryuser.com/blog/2007/03/14/new-ideas-on-the-restaurant-reviews-site%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Tresblue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx for the heads up Stii.
Checked it out and I just love it when people think like me.
Looks really Awesome,
 thanx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx for the heads up Stii.<br />
Checked it out and I just love it when people think like me.<br />
Looks really Awesome,<br />
 thanx.</p>
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		<title>By: Stii</title>
		<link>http://www.arbitraryuser.com/blog/2007/03/14/new-ideas-on-the-restaurant-reviews-site%e2%80%a6/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Stii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tresblue,

with hReview you can do exactly that. See: http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview#Multidimensional_Restaurant_Review</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tresblue,</p>
<p>with hReview you can do exactly that. See: <a href="http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview#Multidimensional_Restaurant_Review" rel="nofollow">http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview#Multidimensional_Restaurant_Review</a></p>
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